Your say on the future of Cheltenham

Sorry additional clarification on my previous request. Can bike/walking path please go under all roads where the rail trench also goes under. This would be a lot safer than crossing the road and increase commute for cyclists/pedestrians.

The future dedicated pedestrian and bike path that runs along the east side of Cheltenham Park and exists onto Park Road is a great idea. However, it will require new traffic lights/pedestrian crossing at Park Road. This is because Cheltenham Primary School children who live in the Park Road area in the City of Bayside will use this future dedicated path to walk to school.

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I am impressed with your initial designs and proposals, it's looking promising. It appears there will be natural light for the station when waiting for the train, along with the appropriate safety measures in place. I also welcome the tier 1 supermarket the area needs, however I don't welcome a 'plaza' or another building that rises above 4 stories they become ugly very quickly and drown out the sunshine, which we need plenty of with all the other high rises surrounding, we don't need this to also impose on the sunshine for the roads and footpath to ruin our pleasant walk to the main shopping strip.
Along with the threat of less sun, my main concern is the proposal for a park and visually seeing the entrance to the station walking or driving down station rd. we do this walk daily and would prefer the view of the trendy cafe or a row of shops to disguise a station door. That's the beauty of it now, its close and it's there but it's cleverly tucked away behind the shops. Therefore we can go to the shops without any danger of the kids wanting to go to the train station. Sounds small but it has a big impact in our world. Cheltenham certainly has a lot of potential and provides a wonderful template to work with so very happy with your bike path plans and multiple overpasses to get to the other side safely, particularly when running for a city bound train from the station rd side. To place the parks above the station and behind the shops is a wonderful idea and as Brett below states, the cemetery needs to be less visible from the street, station and park. To do this, you could simply erect a fence that provides privacy for both the walkers by and the visitors. Having kids, safety and wide open spaces with great food and coffee on hand is a dream location to live in. Connecting Stanley avenue reserve to the park above the station would be good. I think it is a wonderful idea to move the walk through from station rd to park rd a few metres down but in a position that doesn't compromise the businesses that have helped shape and transform cheltenham in the past few years into a contemporary place with great food and sunshine. Attractive combination for many, including golfers, cyclists, families, dog owners, etc. aligning the design with the active nature of cheltenham will make it fantastic. And a indoor 'plaza' does not suit the cheltenham profile. The overall design is looking good.

I like the use of the heritage buildings at the station site, would ask that you put them both buildings together and have one serving as train/ticket office and the other as a café.

Please ensure the 'Cheltenham Village' feel of our neighbourhood is maintained and does not turn into 'Cheltenham CBD' or 'Cheltenham mini city'. All new high rise developments should be no more than 3-4 stories, Nepean Hwy monster buildings is enough already!

Would ask that the bicycle / walking path eventually connect all the way up the rail line in both directions. Plus a safe passage west along Park Road / Tulip Street to get to Beach Road would be good investment in safety also. There should be significantly more safe bike parking at station too. Please ensure the walkway along rail line from Stanley Avenue is maintained.

Currently the shops on Charman Road south of train tracks feel disconnected from the rest of Cheltenham village due to the hump in the road over the railway tracks. Please ensure the ground is levelled during construction to connect both sides as you'll only get one shot at doing this.

Please ensure a NON-see through and taller fence which is shared between cemetery and station / Cheltenham park is included, as this would make both train station and Cheltenham park more appealing. Plus give mourners more privacy during their visits.

Cheltenham are in need of a tier 1 supermarket (Coles or Woolies) - I welcome the proposal for that, please ensure underground parking (1 or 2 levels is included) to ensure overall height is not more than 4 stories.

The plans look really interesting and vibrant.
Suggestion for high rises- please cluster them and L shape them so that no units look directly into other units.
To ease car parking, provide car parks in the high rises as options: 1 or 2.
Sunday market??? This is a feature of Cheltenham and benefits the local community.

There is concerns that previous stages were not as well publicised as this one. Keeping the heritage buildings is good however, as per your diagram on page 31, it appears you are only keeping the Frankston side and not the city side where, lets be honest, is where all the history lies. Having the bus interchange moved on the same side of the station is much safer for all users. I think that with the influx of residents and visitors to the area, the Police Station needs to extend beyond just a frontage at Nepean Hwy but should also have visibility on the Charman Rd side as well.
While the open feel "mall" like atmosphere is great I am concerned with access of cars in and out of the carpark a Station Street now, let alone, with hundreds of new cars to be introduced with your expected increase in numbers, and would like more thought put into this.

I have some issues regarding this plan. For the most part it seems quite logical and thought out, however there are some things that do concern me.

Firstly, I reliase these are concept plans, but it is far to early to look at 9 storey buildings above the rail deck especially as the LXRA have stated that they will not have a building partner until mid 2018.

Secondly, whilst it would LOOK nice to be able to drive or walk up Station Road and see the new station, it is not an imperative and not doing so will not detract from the purpose of the station. This would require the purchase and demolition of some commercial properties along Charman road and the outcome would not be worth the cost.

Thirdly, Cheltenham Plaza is currently a wasteland of a public toilet, roadway and car park entrance. Again, aligning it with Stanley avenue does not give any tangible benefit and would cost a lot of money which would not be feasible. Cheltenham plaza WAS a good idea at the start but the ball has been dropped on this project and I fear it has past its use-by date.

Fourthly, moving the bus interchange to the rail deck on Charman road will not work as it would need to include a dedication crossing for passengers heading south to cross Charman road to catch a train and the reverse of course. The existing crossing in front of the school is well placed for its purpose and should not be moved as it is required for the school. My feeling for the buses is below.

Lastly, buses. An opportunity exists here to properly integrate the buses and the train from Park Road. The long vacant church house on Park road should be acquired and in doing so allows for a u-shaped bus interchange in the existing car park of the station. This puts it behind the Charman road shops out of the way and frees up traffic along Charman Road. It also means you can build a multistorey car park above the bus interchange and do this in conjunction with the LXRA. Whilst the LXRA only have a mandate to replace any used car parking spots, this is a massive investment in the infrastructure of the area and it seems logical to maximise car spaces not only for now but for the future. Council (Kingston and Bayside) should be pushing for a 6-8 storey carpark above a bus interchange on the existing car park land. Whether this is done by the LXRA and Kingston handing over its car park to them or vice versa, a proper integrated transport hub including taxis makes much more sense here and can easily be done, especially of a new bus / car park entrance traffic light is installed for this purpose as suggested in the draft document.

No consideration had been given to a space for the Rotary Sunday Market to continue. The main advantage is that it is Undercover and is able to run in all types of weather. The market has been running weekly for 25 years and funds raised go towards helping kinders, schools, individual school students and citizens in the local community, as well as overseas projects.

In the past structure plan (2010 I think) bus route 631 was to be extended to Cheltenham. Why this has not been listed in this plan is beyond me. This should be seriously considered

Wednesday afternoon session is not conducive to feedback from the working population, how about having more than one session and at times convenient to the majority of residents.

on Sunday morning about 1000 residents attend the destination Sunday market in the Railway Road carpark. this was not mentioned in the Hansen report at all and it appears that no allowance has been made in any of the plans. After more than 20 years it appears that this huge contribution to the local community will cease. No more camps for under privileged students, no more scholarships, no more kindergarten enhancement projects, local participation in the National Youth Science Forum in Canberra gone, Adventures in Citizenship ion Canberra gone...........

Instead of having an information pop up on Wednesday 8 November from 2.30pm - 5.30pm, how about having it on a weekend when people can actually come?
Thanks