Thames Promenade traffic safety improvements

Council is responding to community concerns about pedestrian safety along Thames Promenade.

Between 2009 and 2015, Council undertook extensive consultation with residents about traffic safety along Thames Promenade.

In response to community concerns, Council has:

  • added a roundabout at the Thames Promenade/Fifth Avenue
  • replaced the Chelsea Heights Primary school crossing with pedestrian signal lights
  • improved line marking and cycling facilities
  • resurfaced the full length of Thames Promenade.

We are now seeking community input on several new proposed safety upgrades.

  • Project 1: Pedestrian crossing on Thames Promenade close to Bertrand Road, Chelsea
  • Project 2. Thames Promenade & Scotch Parade intersection
  • Project 3: Thames Promenade Speed limit reduction to 50kmph
  • Project 4: Zebra Crossing with flashing lights outside Chelsea Heights shops
  • Project 5: Scotch Parade at Catherine Avenue, Chelsea – Zebra Crossing


Project 1: Pedestrian crossing on Thames Promenade close to Bertrand Road, Chelsea

What is proposed: Install a zebra crossing with flashing lights close to Bertrand Road in Chelsea.
Where:

What would it look like:

(Example of a similar treatment)


Project 2. Thames Promenade & Scotch Parade intersection
What is proposed: Council is responding to community concerns about high traffic speeds on Thames Promenade and pedestrian safety at the busy Scotch Parade intersection. Following a recent traffic study of the area Council is proposing changes to help improve the safety and capacity of the Scotch Parade/ Thames Promenade intersection while still providing safe passage for buses, cyclists and pedestrians. After analysing a number of options, Council is proposed to add traffic light signals to the intersection and create a ‘raised safety platform’ to increase safety by reducing speed at the intersection.
Project diagram:

What would it look like:

(Example of a similar treatment, noting that traffic lights are also proposed)


Project 3: Thames Promenade Speed limit reduction to 50kmph

Concerns have been raised about speeding motorists on Thames Promenade. We are seeking community input on plans to reduce the speed limit on Thames Promenade to 50kmph. Any speed limit reduction would also require the support of VicRoads, which will be sought if the community supports the plan.

Project 4: Zebra Crossing with flashing lights outside Chelsea Heights shops

In response to residents’ concerns about the safety of pedestrians crossing Thames Promenade outside the shops in Chelsea Heights, Council is proposing to install zebra crossings with flashing lights to improve safety for pedestrians.

Where would it be located:

What would it look like:

(example of similar project)

Project 5: Scotch Parade at Catherine Avenue, Chelsea – Zebra Crossing

Council is responding to community concerns about pedestrian safety while crossing Scotch Parade at Catherine Avenue, close to the children’s playground in Bicentennial Park. We are seeking community input on plans to install a zebra crossing (without flashing lights) at the site to improve pedestrian safety.
Where would it be located:

What would it look like:


Council is responding to community concerns about pedestrian safety along Thames Promenade.

Between 2009 and 2015, Council undertook extensive consultation with residents about traffic safety along Thames Promenade.

In response to community concerns, Council has:

  • added a roundabout at the Thames Promenade/Fifth Avenue
  • replaced the Chelsea Heights Primary school crossing with pedestrian signal lights
  • improved line marking and cycling facilities
  • resurfaced the full length of Thames Promenade.

We are now seeking community input on several new proposed safety upgrades.

  • Project 1: Pedestrian crossing on Thames Promenade close to Bertrand Road, Chelsea
  • Project 2. Thames Promenade & Scotch Parade intersection
  • Project 3: Thames Promenade Speed limit reduction to 50kmph
  • Project 4: Zebra Crossing with flashing lights outside Chelsea Heights shops
  • Project 5: Scotch Parade at Catherine Avenue, Chelsea – Zebra Crossing


Project 1: Pedestrian crossing on Thames Promenade close to Bertrand Road, Chelsea

What is proposed: Install a zebra crossing with flashing lights close to Bertrand Road in Chelsea.
Where:

What would it look like:

(Example of a similar treatment)


Project 2. Thames Promenade & Scotch Parade intersection
What is proposed: Council is responding to community concerns about high traffic speeds on Thames Promenade and pedestrian safety at the busy Scotch Parade intersection. Following a recent traffic study of the area Council is proposing changes to help improve the safety and capacity of the Scotch Parade/ Thames Promenade intersection while still providing safe passage for buses, cyclists and pedestrians. After analysing a number of options, Council is proposed to add traffic light signals to the intersection and create a ‘raised safety platform’ to increase safety by reducing speed at the intersection.
Project diagram:

What would it look like:

(Example of a similar treatment, noting that traffic lights are also proposed)


Project 3: Thames Promenade Speed limit reduction to 50kmph

Concerns have been raised about speeding motorists on Thames Promenade. We are seeking community input on plans to reduce the speed limit on Thames Promenade to 50kmph. Any speed limit reduction would also require the support of VicRoads, which will be sought if the community supports the plan.

Project 4: Zebra Crossing with flashing lights outside Chelsea Heights shops

In response to residents’ concerns about the safety of pedestrians crossing Thames Promenade outside the shops in Chelsea Heights, Council is proposing to install zebra crossings with flashing lights to improve safety for pedestrians.

Where would it be located:

What would it look like:

(example of similar project)

Project 5: Scotch Parade at Catherine Avenue, Chelsea – Zebra Crossing

Council is responding to community concerns about pedestrian safety while crossing Scotch Parade at Catherine Avenue, close to the children’s playground in Bicentennial Park. We are seeking community input on plans to install a zebra crossing (without flashing lights) at the site to improve pedestrian safety.
Where would it be located:

What would it look like:


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As a local and daily/frequent traveller along Scotch Parade I think traffic lights are unnecessary and will cause traffic to queue unnecessarily. It is an awkward intersection but a mini roundabout would make it easier for drivers to navigate around without imposing traffic light queues on locals who already have to navigate up to seven speed humps to commence any journey. Also traffic lights malfunction and need electrical maintenance whereas roundabouts require a lot less maintenance, must be cheaper to install and are less intrusive to the neighbourhood. Plus we already have one on Thames Promenade so they are familiar to the local driving environment.

Alison B 6 months ago

extra parking around Chelsea Heights Primary School is needed however as a Thames Prom resident, I do not want to see traffic stretched back even further due to congestion. There are already days where it can take me 10 mins to get out of my driveway (on the bend near scotch parade, which is already a nightmare) and to wells Rd. improved traffic flow is a great concern.

dbailey 8 months ago

I think that considering how busy it is at the skate park, the upgrade should focus on the scotch parade/Thames intersection. Traffic lights with pedestrian crossing would be safest.

MelanieJames 8 months ago

The area in front of thams shops does indeed need a crossing but I suggest one like Beaumaris shops. A zebra crossing with flashing lights and not traffic lights unless necessary. That area already gets too congested due to the school. As for the speed limit. To reduce would push traffic down Edithvale road and congest that area further. The road is big enough and with enough space for motorists to drive 60kmph. Honestly people already drive 50kmph because their lack of road knowledge so to drop to 50 would indefinitely cause these elderly drivers to go 40kmph causing headache for other road uses. Leave the speed 60kmph!!!

Steph13 8 months ago

I recommend that a similar study be undertaken around the Chelsea Station area on Station Street including reduction in the speed limit and improvement in how pedestrian and vehicle traffic is managed around the area adjacent to the station and bus stops

Niral Fernando 8 months ago

Project 4- I support this proposed safety upgrade. Often many locals -myself included - are trying to dash across the two lanes of traffic to make use of the local shops. While the median stripe has helped a lot I believe a crossing with flashing lights is needed. Often people coming from the park area are on bikes, or we see mums and dads with small children in pushers, walking dogs, on scooters etc all trying to navigate one half of the road then huddle in the median strip area before crossing the next road. I believe a dedicated crossing would make this much easier and safer for all. By increasing safety you may encourage locals to make use of local shopping strips ( and get them out of their cars I hope) which in my opinion is a terrific initiative. Well done City of Kingston for this public review opportunity.

Diane N 8 months ago

Thanks City of Kingston - very happy to see proposed changes for public review!Project 2 – support the design as proposed. A key consideration from my perspective is making improvements to pedestrian crossings, which aligns with the aspirations for wellbeing and safety in Council’s key policies. I have a young family and we currently have trouble crossing from the Chelsea residential areas to the north west of the Thames Promenade/Scotch Parade intersection to Bicentennial park. We have to significantly extend our walking route further down Thames Promenade towards Chelsea Heights in order to cross at the safest point, where there is still only a small traffic island for refuge (insufficient when walking with a double pram) and no zebra crossing. Therefore the signalised pedestrian crossing proposals at this intersection, the most convenient crossing point for pedestrian traffic coming from the north and north-west towards the parkland, are very much welcome. Do not support project 3 – reduction in speed along Thames Promenade is unnecessary. In my opinion intersection improvements should sufficiently address the concerns around speed and safety at the Thames Promenade / Scotch Parade corner.

Sarah K 8 months ago

Great work city of Kingston!Project 2 - the intersection at Thames Prom and Scotch Pde is sorely needed to improve pedestrian and traffic safety. I support the addition of the signalised pedestrian crossing & traffic signals. A roundabout would not be suitable as it primarily caters more to traffic than pedestrians - the most important part to implement is the signalised pedestrian crossing and traffic signals as required – a zebra crossing is too passive and signals is definitely warranted.Project 3: I definitely do not see a need for a speed reduction along Thames Prom. The road width and geometry are completely safe to remain as a 60kph zone & it would not make sense to have a large safe route like Thames Prom at 50kph while adjoining Station St and Wells Rd remain at 60kph.

Daniel James 8 months ago

I support these projects as anything to improve pedestrian safety along Thames Promenade is great. I think cyclist safety also needs to be considered too as the bike lane along Thames Promenade is really laughable.

Tish Booth 8 months ago

Project 3 - very big NO! This is arterial road and the only direct exit from Chelsea towards Wells Road and Frankston Freeway, don't make it even harder.

Mikhail 8 months ago

We too are happy with the increased safety of our local zone, however as per some other users here, please consider:1) a roundabout for that corner instead of a raised platform2) more importantly, consider slow down mechanisms for outside the Chelsea Heights Community Centre (i.e. speed bumps) , it is a dangerous corner and bend. Please help.

Gabe 8 months ago

Well done City of Kingston! Great to see you are putting the safety of pedestrians first. Encouraging active transport, particularly for our children so they can walk, ride, skate and scoot to school is vital to the health and wellbeing of our community. This work has very strong links to City of Kingston’s Public Health & Wellbeing Plan which is very much about safety and increasing physical activity. I am very supportive of each project.Project 1 - makes sense Project 2 - brilliant! The best possible treatment has been proposed. This will make the intersection much safer and increases the number of people walking and cycling to the park. Project 3 - very supportive once again. Lowering speeds is crucial to a safer environment. I believe City of Yarra now have 40km streets. Higher population there obviously but I think 40km per hour should even be considered on Thames. Project 4 - supportive but would like to see this as a raised zebra crossing.Project 5 - supportive for a crossing here but this most definitely should be raised given the number of children crossing over to the park. Well done on this excellent proposal. Looking forward to seeing the works being delivered. It would also be great to see some evaluation with before and after pedestrian/cycling numbers and crash statistics.

andrewpell 9 months ago

Project 2: Please seriously consider a roundabout for this intersection. This would greatly improve traffic flow out of Scotch Pde. From the Vic government TowardsZero website: “Roundabouts help to make intersections safer by reducing vehicle speeds at intersections and make it easier to choose a safe gap in traffic. In the event of a crash, roundabouts reduce the severity of the impact by changing the angles and speeds of a collision. Roundabouts are one of the safest types of intersections and reduce the risk of being severely injured in a car accident by up to 90%.” You could also keep the speed limit at 60km/h for the rest of Thames Pr because traffic will need to slow at a roundabout anyway. For the safety of pedestrians and cyclists, it would be great to look at the brand new roundabouts on Moray St, Sth Melb. While I don’t think there is nearly as much foot and cycle traffic in our area than in Sth Melb, the idea may be do-able on a smaller scale. https://metrotunnel.vic.gov.au/about-the-project/news/moray-street-upgrade-completed

Scotty 9 months ago

Project 2: I believe a roundabout would be the best option for this intersection for better traffic flow, specially on Saturdays when a local footy game is on, or an event is being held at Bicentennial Park.

Buddyfeb 9 months ago

Defnitely agree with lights at the Scotch Pde intersection but NOT with the raised safety platform Defnitely DO NOT agree with 50 Km speed limit.Agree with the pedestrian crossings proposed though cannot understand why there would be no flashing lights for the crossing in Scotch Pde especially as close to Children’s playground at the park There is an issue with traffic near the Chelsea Heights shopping strip during peak periods causing build up back to and including Wells Rd roundabout.

kerin turville 9 months ago

Project 2 Finally! This intersection is painful for anyone turning from Scotch Pde onto Thames Prom.Project 3 NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.Project 4 Yes, excellent idea.

Memyselfandeye 9 months ago

Project 2 is my main concern as I have seen several very close to being serious accidents there. I think lights is the best idea. A round-about would definitely disadvantage Scotch Pde cars turning onto Thames Prom. Thames Prom carries much more traffic than Scotch Pde. Any other projects that make Thames Prom safer for children and elderly would be a good idea.

Arlis 9 months ago

Project 2. Thames & Scotch intersection would be better suited to a Roundabout to allow a more fluid stream of traffic. Currently traffic is banked up on Scotch pde. Lights will exacerbate traffic build up in all directions. Well lit ped crossings can also be installed.I agree with other recommendations although Chelsea Heights Ped Crossing must be lit up well particularly during winter where visibility is poor for such a busy area

Sheepy 9 months ago

All looks ok but something definitely needs to be done with the corner of First Ave and Thames Prom. Either reduce speed limit on Thames Prom on the bend, or build a large Roundabout near the community centre which will slow down the traffic down on Thames Prom to allow safely exiting from Football ground, community center, and First Ave. For First Ave residents we have a blind spot to the right of Thames Prom, and when cars come around fast its taking your life in your own hands. The speed li it is recommended at 50klms but the cars come round that bend at 60/65 and it’s to fast. Thank you

Julia Waters 9 months ago

Support the speed limit reduction and the pedestrian zebra crossings proposed. Walking is very important in this community for access to station, shops and beach and it's good that council is supporting it.

Peter Parker 9 months ago